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Post by brucemacneill on Nov 7, 2016 8:38:19 GMT -5
No, I gave up politics back in the '60s. I'm just hoping for economic expansion and to get some of my money back.Then I'd suggest that you vote for Hillary. Can't continue to afford Democrat policies. Can't think of one Democrat policy I agree with. Hillary wants to preserve Obama's legacy but his and the Dems actions have cost me a couple of hundred grand so far. I want them gone.
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Post by Marshall on Nov 7, 2016 8:39:24 GMT -5
“Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed: everything else is public relations.” I like that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2016 9:00:36 GMT -5
Then I'd suggest that you vote for Hillary. Can't continue to afford Democrat policies. Can't think of one Democrat policy I agree with. Hillary wants to preserve Obama's legacy but his and the Dems actions have cost me a couple of hundred grand so far. I want them gone. You lost a big chunk of change when the market crashed. Losing two hundred grand during the 8 years since Obama took office is curious, given the Dow Jones was under 8,000 when he was sworn in.
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Post by brucemacneill on Nov 7, 2016 9:40:58 GMT -5
Can't continue to afford Democrat policies. Can't think of one Democrat policy I agree with. Hillary wants to preserve Obama's legacy but his and the Dems actions have cost me a couple of hundred grand so far. I want them gone. You lost a big chunk of change when the market crashed. Losing two hundred grand during the 8 years since Obama took office is curious, given the Dow Jones was under 8,000 when he was sworn in. There are other things besides the DOW. I'm also not just counting Obama, I'm counting the state and local Democrats, mostly Kaine and McAuliffe too. Since the Dems went Marxist in the late '60s all they want is everything you might own. I want them gone, all of them. I'm a flaming capitalist lest there was any doubt.
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Post by epaul on Nov 7, 2016 9:44:12 GMT -5
Bruce jumped into the commodity pit with both feet. It can go real quick.
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Post by aquaduct on Nov 7, 2016 10:22:32 GMT -5
The smart money has got to be on Hillary. Too many ways for her to reach 270 electoral votes, and too few ways for Trump. Especially now that the indictment threat has been removed, at least for now. The question is what happens over the next four years. With both chambers of Congress remaining under GOP control, which it seems they will, and no big political wind at Hillary's back, I'd say nothing much beyond gridlock and imprecations. I learned long ago how risky it is to make political predictions for just about anything beyond the next week - or sometimes the next 24 hours - but I would hazard a guess that Hillary will be a one-term president. Fresh new faces will arrive by 2020, and maybe the Republican party will have figured out how to keep itself from being hijacked by a borderline lunatic. In any case, short of a good war to whip up some enthusiasm (got to go along with Doug here - to an extent, remembering that it worked for Washington, Lincoln and Roosevelt), I don't think she's going to wind up replacing anybody on Mt. Rushmore. I think that's a fair assessment although I'm still pulling for Anybody But Hillary. Far from being a borderline lunatic though, I believe Donald Trump has been brilliant and is exactly what is needed to snap the country out of the narcissistic, self-satisfied, and irrational liberal spell that the it's been under for the last decade. Trump's run has never been about Hillary or beating Democrats- it's been about beating Obama. He mowed through a Republican field that consisted of a host of people that have been put in office to stop Barry and caved at every turn. He did it by having a spine and not playing by the squishy "compromise and partisanship" bullshit ploy that Barry has always whined about but never participated in. F**k that asshole. Rent a spine and go toe to toe with him. Shut the government down and quit running scared when the equally useless media mouthpieces call you names. Yeah, we're obstructionists. What are you going to do about it? And I think it's done wonders. Hillary- should she win- is coming in as a virtual lame duck. She's pathetic. For all her supposed big credentials she lost her own party's nomination in 2008 to an amateur who'd never held a real job at that point. And now she's been fought to a draw by a reality TV star without any political experience. Good lord, how do you get more useless? And she's coming in to a system that's unraveling. Barry's the only President in history to never hit 3% GDP growth. In 8 damn years. The middle east is even more of an unending mess that Hillary helped exacerbate. And there's no damn good way to blame Bush this time. They own what they've created. And there's nothing like slow soul crushing disaster to empower the opposition. Ask Jimmy Carter. Trump's given the GOP a road map to victory and has woken a bunch of sheep up to the fact that caving isn't a career builder. And there's some really good talent following behind him. Pence is solid gold at this point. And Cruz seems to have learned a few things from Trump which could make him even more of a force going forward. There's even Gary Johnson and Bill Weld who have solid Republican credentials and have established a credible Third Way. The GOP might find it worth the effort to reach out to and bring them back into the fold. Overall I think it's been a good election season. Might finally be that the current empire has enough rope to hang themselves. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch. Literally.
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Post by patrick on Nov 7, 2016 10:32:52 GMT -5
I predict Hillary will win comfortably, especially in the Electoral College. The Dems will take the Senate and make inroads into the House (though not a majority). Realizing the world as they know it has ended, Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito resign from the Supreme Court. Hillary appoints Barack Obama and Jane Fonda to replace them. Gun manufacturers start a rumor campaign that Hillary is coming for your guns, causing the 3% of the population that owns most of the guns to buy even more. Stock values rise. The stock market continues to climb, unemployment continues to fall, the deficit continues to fall until the budget is balanced, but Republicans continue to insist the US is going bankrupt and the sky will fall any day now. Trey Gowdy starts investigations into whether Hillary: 1) is a secret Muslim born in Kenya 2) was the second shooter on the grassy knoll in Dallas 3) deflated Tom Brady's balls. Rudy Giuliani is revealed to be an alien and Sigourney Weaver is commissioned by Hillary to finally kill him once and for all.
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Post by dradtke on Nov 7, 2016 10:44:03 GMT -5
Funny how a whole lot of people who spent the entire campaign season swearing up and down that they weren't Trump supporters and were going to vote third party are sounding an awful lot like they're going to vote for Trump. It's okay, we didn't believe you earlier anyway.
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Post by aquaduct on Nov 7, 2016 10:49:00 GMT -5
Funny how a whole lot of people who spent the entire campaign season swearing up and down that they weren't Trump supporters and were going to vote third party are sounding an awful lot like they're going to vote for Trump. It's okay, we didn't believe you earlier anyway. Like who?
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Post by james on Nov 7, 2016 10:49:52 GMT -5
“Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed: everything else is public relations.” I like that. I was curious so searched for the author. Quote Investigator is a useful site for that. quoteinvestigator.com/2013/01/20/news-suppress/
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Post by majorminor on Nov 7, 2016 10:51:17 GMT -5
Funny how a whole lot of people who spent the entire campaign season swearing up and down that they weren't Trump supporters and were going to vote third party are sounding an awful lot like they're going to vote for Trump. It's okay, we didn't believe you earlier anyway. You should have believed me because I'm not voting for him. After a recent conversation with my Mom about my refusal to vote against Hillary I think I'm out of the will. By the way - there are more people here holding their noses and voting Hillary than the opposite.
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Post by aquaduct on Nov 7, 2016 11:01:26 GMT -5
By the way - there are more people here holding their noses and voting Hillary than the opposite. Funny how that's working. All the folks that are complaining about how lousy they feel about voting are Democrats. Wonder why that is?
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Post by fauxmaha on Nov 7, 2016 11:03:52 GMT -5
And I think it's done wonders. Hillary- should she win- is coming in as a virtual lame duck. She's pathetic. For all her supposed big credentials she lost her own party's nomination in 2008 to an amateur who'd never held a real job at that point. And now she's been fought to a draw by a reality TV star without any political experience. Good lord, how do you get more useless? And she's coming in to a system that's unraveling.That's the cheerful part of all this. It makes little difference who wins, Washington has already lost.
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Post by aquaduct on Nov 7, 2016 11:30:49 GMT -5
And I think it's done wonders. Hillary- should she win- is coming in as a virtual lame duck. She's pathetic. For all her supposed big credentials she lost her own party's nomination in 2008 to an amateur who'd never held a real job at that point. And now she's been fought to a draw by a reality TV star without any political experience. Good lord, how do you get more useless? And she's coming in to a system that's unraveling.That's the cheerful part of all this. It makes little difference who wins, Washington has already lost. I've said that from the beginning. This election is worthless. Doesn't matter who's in the top slot. The bureaucracy is self-sustaining and can't be stopped. Like some science fiction robot. How does Congress stop an EPA regulation? The CAA gives them authority to create their own reality. No review is available, judicial or otherwise. Same with FDA and their vaping regs. Who's to say "that's stupid"? Nobody. That's another great thing about a Trump election. Gina McCarthy's head would explode. Awesome, dude. Although I believe Johnson's approach actually has the best shot at solving something before it becomes a disaster, my experience as a compliance guy says organizations don't solve things proactively. Particularly something as huge, hidebound, and monolithic as the federal government. Your best shot is to accelerate the destruction (whistle blowers and complainers get thrown out on their ass) and be prepared with solutions once the flames have gotten high enough to burn your balls. So we move to collapse. It's probably inevitable. But curiously it's the best hope. I'll bring marshmallows and sticks if you provide the Hershey bars and graham crackers.
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Post by majorminor on Nov 7, 2016 11:56:45 GMT -5
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Post by epaul on Nov 7, 2016 14:58:45 GMT -5
Cute kid. Kind of looks like you, Steve.
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Post by epaul on Nov 7, 2016 15:01:09 GMT -5
My prediction: The Vikings go 10 and 6, win the Central, and what the hell, go on the Super Bowl. AND WIN!
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Post by Russell Letson on Nov 7, 2016 15:09:48 GMT -5
Far from being a borderline lunatic though, I believe Donald Trump has been brilliant and is exactly what is needed to snap the country out of the narcissistic, self-satisfied, and irrational liberal spell that the it's been under for the last decade. So Trump is the political version of homeopathy?
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Post by Russell Letson on Nov 7, 2016 15:16:16 GMT -5
Oh, wait--homeopathy works by dilution of the poisons, but Trumpism is full-strength narcissism, self-satisfaction, and irrationality, in a solution of lies, insults, and rabble-rousing fear-mongering. So he's really a full-blown disease rather than a watered-down symptom.
I rest my metaphoric case.
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Post by aquaduct on Nov 7, 2016 15:18:46 GMT -5
Far from being a borderline lunatic though, I believe Donald Trump has been brilliant and is exactly what is needed to snap the country out of the narcissistic, self-satisfied, and irrational liberal spell that the it's been under for the last decade. So Trump is the political version of homeopathy? More like electroshock therapy.
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