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Post by PaulKay on Nov 5, 2016 14:09:57 GMT -5
My prediction. Hillary will win in a close election. Trump will crawl back into whatever mansion he crawled out of.
Congress will remain in Rep control. Congress will continue to reject the legitimacy of a Democrat presidency for no other reason other then they hope if nothing happens for another 4 years maybe then the electorate will switch sides (and they will be wrong "again"). They will block all Clinton initiatives without regard to importance. There will be no immigration reform. They will ignore her budget before the ink is dry. They will refuse to consider any supreme court nominee and we will have only eight justices for the foreseeable future. Obamacare will continue and congress will oppose any and all attempts to make tweaks to improve it.
The economy will continue to improve although slowly and the regions struggling from past factory closings will continue to struggle (no magic bullets of change will occur and never would have regardless).
Republican states will continue to reject expansion of Medicaid and those too poor to buy coverage on health exchanges will continue to lack sufficient healthcare.
Those who are afraid the government will take their guns will find four years later they still have them.
In other words, four to eight more years of government gridlock that will neither help nor harm the economy. At the end of the day, after 18 months of absolutely disgusting campaigning, nothing will change for the better, but at least it won't get any worse.
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Post by Cosmic Wonder on Nov 5, 2016 14:16:40 GMT -5
Sadly, I concur.
Mike
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Post by brucemacneill on Nov 5, 2016 14:31:54 GMT -5
I realize that you Democrats(Communists, same thing) took a vow of poverty so poor people could be cared for but I didn't. I don't want what little f'ing wealth I have f'ing redistributed because I worked too f'ing hard to get it. That's why I'm not about to vote for Hillary, nothing to do with her anatomy. Clear???
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Post by PaulKay on Nov 5, 2016 14:35:12 GMT -5
I realize that you Democrats(Communists, same thing) took a vow of poverty so poor people could be cared for but I didn't. I don't want what little f'ing wealth I have f'ing redistributed because I worked too f'ing hard to get it. That's why I'm not about to vote for Hillary, nothing to do with her anatomy. Clear??? Fine with me. It doesn't change my predictions. For the record, I'm an independent.
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Post by epaul on Nov 5, 2016 15:58:58 GMT -5
To quote Yogi Berra, predictions are tough to make, especially about the future. With that in mind, I expect Hillary will win comfortably and that her presidency won't be a bad as many fear. While not nearly as likable as Obama, I think she will be a more successful president, IF lessening the gridlock with congress and actually getting some bi-partisan legislation passed is a measure of success (if gridlock and the lack of bi-partisan legislation is good, however, then Hillary will be a less successful president than Obama).
I could be dead wrong, of course. Hillary's first two years could be tied up with impeachment hearings, and then the campaigning for 2020 will begin and it will all be over (except for foreign policy and wars of various sorts), so absolute gridlock isn't a bad guess at all.
But, there is a chance of getting some agreement across the fence with Hillary. She is more conservative and less imperial than Obama. Obama and his team came out the gate with too much arrogance and the soup got spoiled his first year. Hillary will be more savvy than team Obama and will offer some deals. Funds for solar energy farms of the future will be paired up with a couple new pipelines to get us through the next fifteen or twenty years. Immigration reform will be paired with some needed teeth for an enforced border. And the next time Putin rides a horse shirtless, so will Hillary. And that will scare the hell out of Putin. And his horse.
Just a guess, but if Hillary isn't completely strung up by her emails, there is a chance the left will be as disgusted with her as the right and she will turn into a pretty good president. The hate thing will be tough to overcome, but I think she is plenty capable.
Time will tell.
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Post by theevan on Nov 5, 2016 16:45:41 GMT -5
I generally agree, though I don't think it will be as close as the media is implying. Closeness enhances ratings.
I'm voting, but for neither of these clowns.
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Post by jdd2 on Nov 5, 2016 17:10:48 GMT -5
My prediction: If trump wins the S&P will fall 5-10%, and that's the following days, even before he takes control. If the hill wins, maybe 3% up.
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Post by Doug on Nov 5, 2016 17:45:13 GMT -5
I think if Clinton wins we can count on more war. More servicemen killed for political gain. Wag the dog
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Post by Lonnie on Nov 5, 2016 18:01:32 GMT -5
Poison mushrooms, anyone?
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Post by Marshall on Nov 5, 2016 18:18:33 GMT -5
I would guess Hill wins big. Ds might take the senate. Rs hold the house. Doug's right, Hill will get us involved in Syria. But not boots on the ground. But the airways will be crowded and dangerous. But Alepo might not hang on that long. That's why Putin and Assad are pressing the slaughter so strongly. Once BO is gone they won't have such a free hand in that part of the world. But on a national front, the House will continue their twice a year repeal ACA circus. The Senate could go D, but nobody will have a filibuster proof situation. More grid lock. Millring will be happy. The real thing to watch will be who emerges as the new R leadership. The old guard is decimated. Trump will go back to reality TV. He'll no longer carry any weight politically. But somebody will fill the void. Cruz will try to be the guy. But he doesn't appeal to a wide enough swath of the party faithful. In fact nobody does. That's the problem for the Rs. They are a fractured party. The different factions seem to negate each other. But the Ds too need new leadership. Hillary is the old guard. They need some new blood and new direction. If Trump, per chance wins, I'm moving into Katherine and Larry's shed.
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Post by epaul on Nov 5, 2016 18:48:32 GMT -5
Domestically, I want Hillary. Foreign policy, I want Trump. I fear Hillary will try to solve Syria. Trump doesn't know where Syria is. Advantage Trump.
But, then I am a Russian agent working to implement Russian policy.
I don't want to solve Syria. Well, I wouldn't mind solving Syria, but I don't believe we can and there is enough of a track record to substantiate that belief. So, I don't want this country to expend lives and money in an attempt to solve Syria. I want to let the Russians try. They have the better solution.
Russian solution. Back Assad. Assad has a power base. Assad has the support of Iran, the most powerful neighbor. Assad hates Isis and the rest of the Sunni apocalyptic cuckoos. Let Russia have at it. We will cheer them on from afar.
Our solution? We want to put an opposition group in charge. But, the most powerful opposition group and the one with the most apparent support is Isis. Scratch them. Number two most powerful group? Al Quida. Screw that. Same deal with opposition groups three, four and five. So, who will we put in charge and support? Opposition group number seven, comprised of twelve or so members. A group that has no power and no support. Other than us. And maybe a European or two. Right off the bat, our group will be attacked by the more popular and powerful groups and will be undermined not only by Iran, but also by our "friends", Saudi Arbia and Turkey, who will immediately go to work turning our group into theirs.
It will be Iraq all over again. We will be playing a game with pieces we don't know and rules we don't understand.
Let Russia have at it. They have more reason to care.
Agent epaul, signing off.
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Post by RickW on Nov 5, 2016 18:49:33 GMT -5
I think the most interesting part of the next eight years will be what Marshall said. Whither goes the Republican party? This whole election had broken them wider than the crack in a plumbers ass. The dems don't seem to really change that much.
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Post by brucemacneill on Nov 5, 2016 19:04:16 GMT -5
I think the most interesting part of the next eight years will be what Marshall said. Whither goes the Republican party? This whole election had broken them wider than the crack in a plumbers ass. The dems don't seem to really change that much. Dems are monolithic. Republicans aren't because they still have working brains. To Dems, and libertarians apparently but not all of them, drugs, especially Pot, are great. They make people dumb and easy to control. Unfortunately, the Dems have anesthetized over half the population already so we're screwed.
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Post by millring on Nov 5, 2016 19:38:10 GMT -5
I doubt it will be close. I always have. And people will continue to beat the incessant drum -- that Republican opposition is illegitimate.
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Post by Rob Hanesworth on Nov 5, 2016 19:38:50 GMT -5
I think the most interesting part of the next eight years will be what Marshall said. Whither goes the Republican party? This whole election had broken them wider than the crack in a plumbers ass. The dems don't seem to really change that much. Dems are monolithic. Republicans aren't because they still have working brains. To Dems, and libertarians apparently but not all of them, drugs, especially Pot, are great. They make people dumb and easy to control. Unfortunately, the Dems have anesthetized over half the population already so we're screwed. If Republicans have 'working brains,' why is Trump their nominee?
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Post by majorminor on Nov 5, 2016 19:58:49 GMT -5
Hillary will win. I think the economic malaise will continue to fester, Obamacare will crash when all the carriers drop out, or the penalties are going to get Draconian to get the young blood in the program. The Middle East will remain a shit show, and she is a 1 term president IMO. Millring says we'll never see a Repub president again because the welfare tide has turned. I don't agree. Romney would win this election. Kasich would win this election. Rubio would win this election. Heck I think even Ted Cruz would win this election. The mood and sentiment of the nation will be the same or worse after 4 years of Hillary and the Repubs won't nominate a clown Next time IMO.
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Post by Village Idiot on Nov 5, 2016 19:59:38 GMT -5
I think what will be interesting will be the short-term stuff. They won't cause national havoc, but there will be some people at some polls who (thanks to Trump) think they have the right to monitor polling places and stupid stuff will ensue (at a few polling places) and that'll be what we'll be enduring watching the news for the following weeks.
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Post by factorychef on Nov 5, 2016 20:21:22 GMT -5
Don't watch the news
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Post by epaul on Nov 5, 2016 20:40:08 GMT -5
I predict Bruce will begin Election Eve with a full bottle of Scotch. He will end it with an empty one.
Bruce will not be the Lone Bottle Ranger.
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Post by Village Idiot on Nov 5, 2016 20:43:46 GMT -5
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