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Post by majorminor on Nov 8, 2016 9:42:24 GMT -5
The stock market is up because there is no where else to park money that pays a return. I'm sure I'm in my own little rural blue collar bubble, but this current economy is nothing to be bragging about IMO.
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Post by Marshall on Nov 8, 2016 15:35:13 GMT -5
The Wall Street friends of Hillary and Barry (the same ones who fucked the rest of us over in 2008) are the only folks that have made money under his tenure. The rest of us who have to work for a living have seen nothing but moribund GDP and job growth. . . . , Good band name: Moribund !(Damn. There's already a Moribund Records.)
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Post by Doug on Nov 8, 2016 17:59:00 GMT -5
If N FL was the predictor Trump wins by a landslide. On of the most common signs is "Democrats for Trump". Never saw so many red ball caps. Ate dinner at a BBQ joint, 4 TVs all running Trump speeches. Lots of cute 20s waitresses in skin tight jeans and red Trump shirts, guess where I was looking. I worked hard to become a "dirty old man" Went through a small town that had the best patriotic display I've ever seen. There were white crosses topped by American flags and on each was written the name of a local son and WW1, WW2, Korea, VN etc. every 50ft on both sides of the street for about a mile. It was moving.
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Post by fauxmaha on Nov 8, 2016 18:06:10 GMT -5
My prediction is that today, we are voting to go to war.
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Post by theevan on Nov 9, 2016 5:07:41 GMT -5
Welp, I didn't see that coming.
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Post by millring on Nov 9, 2016 7:40:35 GMT -5
Predictable as a sunrise the CBS News OPENED their broadcast this morning -- not with a story about the Trump and his successful campaign or even Hillary and her losing -- not with a story about the pollsters and why they might have gotten it wrong....
...no, somehow they thought that the most important story in the entire universe is that Russia is celebrating the election of Trump.
Nope, no narrative there. They're just TRYING to convince me that the press conspires with their narrative, but I'm not going to bite. I'm not going there.
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Post by brucemacneill on Nov 9, 2016 7:56:30 GMT -5
I haven't had the desire to look at any of the left-wing news outlets. I hate seeing grown-ups cry or lose their cool. As much as I might find the spin amusing I'm not up to it yet.
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Post by PaulKay on Nov 9, 2016 8:04:10 GMT -5
Americans deserves everything they have coming to them
They voted for change and change they shall get.
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Post by millring on Nov 9, 2016 8:06:52 GMT -5
Americans deserves everything they have coming to them They voted for change and change they shall get. For one thing, we'll see if our shaky economy can survive an adversarial press.
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Post by jdd2 on Nov 9, 2016 8:23:19 GMT -5
Americans deserves everything they have coming to them They voted for change and change they shall get. For one thing, we'll see if our shaky economy can survive an adversarial press. Maybe you'll want to see if your adversarial press and shaky economy can survive trump. You don't strike me as a person who has a 401K, or other retirement funds, so maybe it's not important...
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Post by millring on Nov 9, 2016 8:37:50 GMT -5
For one thing, we'll see if our shaky economy can survive an adversarial press. Maybe you'll want to see if your adversarial press and shaky economy can survive trump. You don't strike me as a person who has a 401K, or other retirement funds, so maybe it's not important... What does having retirement funds have to do with it? I make stuff to sell. If the economy sucks, I don't sell. Nothing difficult to understand there.
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Post by billhammond on Nov 9, 2016 9:59:18 GMT -5
Predictable as a sunrise the CBS News OPENED their broadcast this morning -- not with a story about the Trump and his successful campaign or even Hillary and her losing -- not with a story about the pollsters and why they might have gotten it wrong.... ...no, somehow they thought that the most important story in the entire universe is that Russia is celebrating the election of Trump. Nope, no narrative there. They're just TRYING to convince me that the press conspires with their narrative, but I'm not going to bite. I'm not going there. John, why don't you read a fucking newspaper, and turn off the fucking TV, and get a fucking clue that what some sunrise network show leads with is not emblematic of how "the press" performs. My colleagues here have just come to the end of a grueling campaign, worked our fucking asses off, and we come to work today and read shit like this. Love, Bill
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Post by aquaduct on Nov 9, 2016 10:11:44 GMT -5
The smart money has got to be on Hillary. Too many ways for her to reach 270 electoral votes, and too few ways for Trump. Especially now that the indictment threat has been removed, at least for now. The question is what happens over the next four years. With both chambers of Congress remaining under GOP control, which it seems they will, and no big political wind at Hillary's back, I'd say nothing much beyond gridlock and imprecations. I learned long ago how risky it is to make political predictions for just about anything beyond the next week - or sometimes the next 24 hours - but I would hazard a guess that Hillary will be a one-term president. Fresh new faces will arrive by 2020, and maybe the Republican party will have figured out how to keep itself from being hijacked by a borderline lunatic. In any case, short of a good war to whip up some enthusiasm (got to go along with Doug here - to an extent, remembering that it worked for Washington, Lincoln and Roosevelt), I don't think she's going to wind up replacing anybody on Mt. Rushmore. I think that's a fair assessment although I'm still pulling for Anybody But Hillary. Far from being a borderline lunatic though, I believe Donald Trump has been brilliant and is exactly what is needed to snap the country out of the narcissistic, self-satisfied, and irrational liberal spell that the it's been under for the last decade. Trump's run has never been about Hillary or beating Democrats- it's been about beating Obama. He mowed through a Republican field that consisted of a host of people that have been put in office to stop Barry and caved at every turn. He did it by having a spine and not playing by the squishy "compromise and partisanship" bullshit ploy that Barry has always whined about but never participated in. F**k that asshole. Rent a spine and go toe to toe with him. Shut the government down and quit running scared when the equally useless media mouthpieces call you names. Yeah, we're obstructionists. What are you going to do about it? And I think it's done wonders. Hillary- should she win- is coming in as a virtual lame duck. She's pathetic. For all her supposed big credentials she lost her own party's nomination in 2008 to an amateur who'd never held a real job at that point. And now she's been fought to a draw by a reality TV star without any political experience. Good lord, how do you get more useless? And she's coming in to a system that's unraveling. Barry's the only President in history to never hit 3% GDP growth. In 8 damn years. The middle east is even more of an unending mess that Hillary helped exacerbate. And there's no damn good way to blame Bush this time. They own what they've created. And there's nothing like slow soul crushing disaster to empower the opposition. Ask Jimmy Carter. Trump's given the GOP a road map to victory and has woken a bunch of sheep up to the fact that caving isn't a career builder. And there's some really good talent following behind him. Pence is solid gold at this point. And Cruz seems to have learned a few things from Trump which could make him even more of a force going forward. There's even Gary Johnson and Bill Weld who have solid Republican credentials and have established a credible Third Way. The GOP might find it worth the effort to reach out to and bring them back into the fold. Overall I think it's been a good election season. Might finally be that the current empire has enough rope to hang themselves. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch. Literally. I'm thinking of renting myself out as a professional mind reader.
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Post by brucemacneill on Nov 9, 2016 10:15:41 GMT -5
Dow is flat.
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Post by billhammond on Nov 9, 2016 10:18:53 GMT -5
So is North Dakota. But both prevail.
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Post by drlj on Nov 9, 2016 10:25:08 GMT -5
Predictable as a sunrise the CBS News OPENED their broadcast this morning -- not with a story about the Trump and his successful campaign or even Hillary and her losing -- not with a story about the pollsters and why they might have gotten it wrong.... ...no, somehow they thought that the most important story in the entire universe is that Russia is celebrating the election of Trump. Nope, no narrative there. They're just TRYING to convince me that the press conspires with their narrative, but I'm not going to bite. I'm not going the re. It is a story worth reporting especially when one takes into account the intelligence community's belief that Russia was behind the hacking. It is not a huge story, but worthy of reporting. I saw it on CNN and another outlet while channel surfing this morning. I am sure they are just commies trying to create controversy, though. Or anti-Russian-Republican zealots. I get them mixed up.
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Post by drlj on Nov 9, 2016 10:30:02 GMT -5
So is North Dakota. But both prevail. Flat ain't bad. I will take flat for a few days.
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Post by epaul on Nov 9, 2016 10:40:14 GMT -5
On the lighter side...
John, miraculously, is gifted the one last Republican president for the rest of his lifetime....and it's Donald Trump.
This is a tricky moment, so I will make clear, the above is an opportunity to make an ironic joke, a variation on the "genie wish gone awry" joke (#24). I know that John isn't a Republican, but is rather a thoughtful, complex person with values that tend to be represented more often in conservative positions than liberal positions.
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Post by Chesapeake on Nov 9, 2016 10:59:11 GMT -5
Peter: I'm going to go back and redact my "borderline lunatic" line, in a gracious (and classy, if I do say myself) spirit of reconciliation.
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Post by Chesapeake on Nov 9, 2016 11:03:50 GMT -5
John: It's the habit of news organizations to continually be updating breaking stories with fresh ledes. By this morning, everybody knew who won the election. I'm guessing NBC was reporting on celebrations in Russia because that was the newest wrinkle in the story.
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